EFTU - LHBP possible bug

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EFTU - LHBP possible bug

Post by starlifter » Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:11 pm

EFTU - LHBP
FL: 350 - 350
Submitted Route: GUPLO N609 PETOT Y158 LUTAL P870 BOKSU M857 PODAN UZ500 DEMOP UM66 JBR
Verification result: PROF: Y158 not available between PETOT and LUTAL at FL195..350

Eurocontrol document that states IMO route is correct: AIP Estonia (EE) > ENR 3.3 AREA NAVIGATION (RNAV) ROUTES > ENR 3.3-43 (I've searched for Y158 in the document; it describes upper limit at FL660, and lower at FL95).

Is this correct?
Regards, Andrei

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Re: EFTU - LHBP possible bug

Post by Michal Rok » Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:05 pm

I looked up Y158 in Eurocontrol SkyView database. It clearly said the FL range is 95-195.

I changed vroute's database to 95-660. However, as soon as next SkyView is released the route will be set again to whatever SkyView says - could be it will flip back to 95-195.


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Re: EFTU - LHBP possible bug

Post by starlifter » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:29 pm

Never heard of Skyview before, I use only Eurocontrol EAD for my charts and other stuff, + vroute for validation.
And if 195 it's the upper limit, why isn't stated so in the AIP?
Please keep in mind that currently, the 2 following routes are impossible to validate using vroute:

EFTU - LHBP
FL: 350 - 350
Submitted Route: GUPLO N609 PETOT Y158 LUTAL P870 BOKSU M857 PODAN UZ500 DEMOP UM66 JBR
Verification result: PROF: Y158 not available between PETOT and LUTAL at FL195..350

EFTU - EPGD
FL: 350 - 350
Submitted Route: GUPLO N609 PETOT Y121 VATOS P31 BALIT G805 KUNER P31 VAPOS
Verification result: PROF: Y121 not available between LEMSI and SUVIX at FL195..350
PROF: Y121 not available between SUVIX and VATOS at FL195..350

Redirecting from PETOT to LUTAL displays similar error.

I've tried to submit the route to LHBP again after you posted that you changed the database, I get the same verification result. I'm not saying that you are wrong, but please keep in mind that routes from EFTU to the south are not possible to validate via vroute in the current conditions (and I use vroute info for my routes).
I am here to help :)

Cheers,
Andrei

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Re: EFTU - LHBP possible bug

Post by Michal Rok » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:43 pm

I'll increase max FL for Y121 and Y158 to FL660. But as I said, it will revert to Skyview data as soon as they are available for cycle 1210.


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