Problems with routes from EDDF due to ACFT TYPE

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Andreas Fuchs
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Problems with routes from EDDF due to ACFT TYPE

Post by Andreas Fuchs » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:09 am

Hi Michal,

got the following issue:

- route from EDDF to LOWI
- there are 2 separate SIDs, RATIM and NOMBO. RATIM is for props, NOMBO for jets.

At the moment vroute is only holding a route via RATIM, trying to add a new route for jets via NOMBO always fails. Vroute is always trying to validate with an ATR42 and therefore the valid route NOMBO Y161 MAH Y162 MANAL MANAL M736 TULSI gets rejected by Eurocontrol.

Could you please fix this?

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(FPL-SAG001-IS
-B763/H-SDRWY/S
-EDDF1200
-N0450FL230 NOMBO Y161 MAH Y162 MANAL MANAL M736 TULSI
-LOWI0100
-PBN/B4

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NO ERRORS
Cheers, Andreas

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Michal Rok
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Re: Problems with routes from EDDF due to ACFT TYPE

Post by Michal Rok » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:10 am

hi Andreas,

I built a rule earlier to switch to jet in such cases, but that move is triggered by a specific string in CFMU response. At the moment I have the following triggers:
* INVALID OR INCOMPATIBLE WITH AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE
* TYPE JET
* EGLF4051B
* ONLY JET
* GIVMI
* [EDDM1A]
* LIMIT IS EXCEEDED FOR AERODROME EGPF
* ED2602

What shall I add there?


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Re: Problems with routes from EDDF due to ACFT TYPE

Post by Andreas Fuchs » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:07 pm

Hi Michal,

good question! SIDs to NOMBO have been replaced by SIDs via AKONI in the latest AIRAC and I would need to work that out now. Lack of time does not help, though...
Cheers, Andreas

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Re: Problems with routes from EDDF due to ACFT TYPE

Post by Michal Rok » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:24 am

Must be something else causing this:

(FPL-LOT001-IN -AT43/M-DGFIRSWYH/L -EDDF0850 -N0250F120 RATIM L603 OLETU Z106 MANAL M736 TULSI -LOWI0123 -PBN/A1B2C1D1L1O1S2 REG/DABCD NAV/GPS DOF/181117) ROUTE135: THE SID LIMIT IS EXCEEDED FOR AERODROME EDDF [EDDF50115A] CONNECTING TO RATIM

(FPL-LOT001-IN -B738/M-DGFIRSWYH/L -EDDF0850 -N0430F120 RATIM L603 OLETU Z106 MANAL M736 TULSI -LOWI0123 -PBN/A1B2C1D1L1O1S2 REG/DABCD NAV/GPS DOF/181117) ROUTE135: THE SID LIMIT IS EXCEEDED FOR AERODROME EDDF [EDDF50115A] CONNECTING TO RATIM

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Re: Problems with routes from EDDF due to ACFT TYPE

Post by srcooke » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:09 pm

RATIM sid's were removed at the same time as NOMBO

AKONI sid is not type dependent
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Stephen Cooke

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